Gay Jewish "Christian" Alex Haiken contacted me again recently. He is still calling Yahweh God a liar and desperately attempting to justify his sin with a variety of excuses. His writings are still constantly and consistently laced with error, misinformation, inferences, presumptions, assumptions, conclusions drawn on assumptions, pretext, front-loading, and eisegetical interpretations based on his feelings and opinions, not to mention sloppy and dishonest scholarship, blatant plagiarism, copy errors, selective citations, truncated quotations of text, and creative editing. The title of his message was "A Fresh Look at What Many Assume is Settled." So I put another nail of finality in the coffin against his illogical and unbiblical arguments. Here it is:
QUESTION TO GROK: Leviticus 18:22, 20:13 and Romans 1:26-27. Is there anything in the surrounding context that would make one think these verses mean other than exactly what they say in plain English (or plain Hebrew or Greek)? Such as only applying in certain situations?
GROK'S ANSWER: No. The immediate surrounding context of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, and Romans 1:26–27 does not contain any qualifiers, exceptions, or framing that restricts these verses to specific situations (such as temple prostitution, idolatry rituals, pederasty, exploitation, or cultural practices of the time). Instead, the context presents them as straightforward, general prohibitions or examples of sexual behavior that violate God’s created order and holiness standards. Here is the textual evidence, drawn directly from the ESV translation for clarity and accuracy.
Leviticus 18:22
The full chapter is a unified list of sexual and moral laws given to Israel so they will not imitate Egypt or Canaan (vv. 1–5, 24–30). Verses 6–18 detail incest prohibitions (“uncover the nakedness of…”). Verse 19 covers menstrual relations, v. 20 adultery, v. 21 child sacrifice to Molech, v. 22 the male-male prohibition (“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination”), and v. 23 bestiality.
The chapter then concludes (vv. 24–30):
“Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean… But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you… For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.”
- No mention of temples, rituals, idolatry in the sexual acts themselves, consent, or age.
- The same-sex prohibition sits between adultery/Molech and bestiality as one item in a list of inherent defilements.
- The broader framing is Israel’s distinct holiness (“I am the Lord your God”) versus the general practices of surrounding nations—not a narrow application.
Leviticus 20:13
This chapter repeats many of the same offenses with penalties. It opens with Molech/child sacrifice (vv. 2–5), mediums (v. 6), parental cursing (v. 9), adultery (v. 10), various incest cases (vv. 11–12, 14, 17–21), v. 13 (“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them”), then bestiality (vv. 15–16).
It closes (vv. 22–27):
“You shall therefore keep all my statutes and all my rules and do them, that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out. And you shall not walk in the customs of the nation that I am driving out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I detested them… You shall be holy to me, for I the Lord am holy and have separated you from the peoples.”
Again, no contextual limit. The male-male act is treated like adultery or incest—moral violations with the death penalty under Israel’s theocracy—without any tie to specific rituals or situations. The language (“lies with a male as with a woman”) is identical to 18:22 and plainly sexual.
Romans 1:26–27
These verses sit in Paul’s argument about universal human sinfulness (the whole chapter builds from vv. 18–32). Paul begins with general revelation in creation (vv. 19–20), humanity’s suppression of truth and idolatry (“exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images,” vv. 21–23), then God “gave them up” in stages:
- To impurity/dishonoring bodies (v. 24–25).
- To dishonorable passions (vv. 26–27): “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
- To a debased mind and a long list of other sins (envy, murder, deceit, etc., vv. 28–31).
The chapter ends by noting that people know these things deserve death yet approve them (v. 32).
- The “for this reason” links same-sex acts to the prior idolatry (rejecting the Creator), but it does not limit the acts themselves to temple prostitution or pagan rites.
- The description is general and parallel: women “exchanged natural relations,” and “the men likewise.” It uses creation-order language (“natural relations,” echoing Genesis 1–2) and describes mutual passion (“consumed with passion for one another”), not exploitation or specific contexts.
- No qualifiers about consent, orientation, loving relationships, or cultural practices. It is presented as one clear example of what happens when God hands people over to sin.
Summary from the Text Itself (Plain English, Hebrew, Greek)
- Hebrew (Leviticus): “lie with a male as with a woman” (mishkeve ishah) uses the ordinary verb for sexual intercourse; “abomination” (to’evah) labels it morally/sexually defiling in the same way as the surrounding acts. No grammatical or contextual hint of restriction.
- Greek (Romans): “contrary to nature” (para physin), “men with men” (arsenes en arsesin), “shameless acts” (aschēmosynēn). The flow is straightforward and universal.
- In every case, the surrounding verses frame these as part of a broader category of sexual immorality that defiles people/land (Leviticus) or exemplifies humanity’s rejection of God’s design (Romans). Nothing in the immediate context narrows them to “only certain situations.”
Broader interpretive debates (e.g., claims about ancient Near Eastern temple prostitution or pederasty) rely on external historical/cultural reconstructions, not the verses’ own context. The text itself gives no such signals.
MY FINAL WORDS: It is absolutely hilarious, and yet tragically sad, that Grok AI has more sense than Alex does. He is incapable of being honest with himself, but instead has to desperately search for excuses for his sin so he can justify his disobedience and rebellion. He continues attempting to call God a liar while claiming he knows better than Him. Scripture is opposed to his position and interpretations. The early Ekklesia is opposed to his position and interpretations. The history of Jewish commentary on these verses is opposed to his position and interpretations. The history of the Christian Ekklesia is opposed to his position and interpretations. ALL of history stands against him. ALL of nature, science, logic, reason and common sense stand against him. He and his fellow ilk can attempt to re-write history and God's words all they want, but they will continue to stand in the wrong.
"You shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman" is crystal clear and self explanatory. "Their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another" is crystal clear and self explanatory. Only the willfully ignorant and a complete fool would attempt to deny what these verses plainly and clearly say, attempting to claim they say something else or mean something else. God prohibits and condemns ALL same-sex relations! Period!!! There is no such thing as a "gay Christian." I suggest you STOP calling God a liar by attempting to make His words say something He never said, as you are behaving exactly like your father, the Devil, who is the father of lies.
This issue is absolutely settled! It is the perverted of mind who simply do not want it to be.